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1. Literary fiction in Australia today is often accused of
blandness. How does Subtopia break away from the
dominant ‘middlebrow’ tone of contemporary Australian
literary fiction?
I wanted to write Subtopia in a contemporary idiom
and avoid the highly ornamental, belletristic language of
so much recent Australian fiction. That’s partly why
it is written in the first person, and why, at moments,
there is a pared-back feel to the novel’s descriptive
capacity. I really dislike the idea that literature exists
to reveal the beauty in the ordinary. Subtopia
avoids and at moments satirizes that assumption about literature
and its aesthetic mission.
2.
You have argued that it is only through independent presses
that we may get to read more varied forms of writing. What
can an independent company such as Vulgar Press do for a novel
like Subtopia that a larger conglomerate can’t?
Independent presses are driven primarily by political and
aesthetic considerations, not commercial ones. That doesn’t
mean they ignore the commercial, but they don’t try
to fit a book into a mould that is predetermined by the
market.
3. You have accused publishers of having little idea about
who reads what books and why. Who do you think Subtopia
will appeal to? Who do you see as your audience?
I don’t think they have no idea of who reads and why,
but that their conception of readerships reflects demographics
that they think they can access easily. There is no sense
of trying to forge a readership. Subtopia will
appeal to disgruntled Generation-X types and to everyone
else bored with national allegories, happy endings and the
idea that we have to feel good about crap. It is also a
novel about radical experience (or its impossibility) and
the ghosts of the late sixties and early seventies. So it
is pitched at the left more generally.
4.
Australian
literary fiction has a tradition based in the depiction of
rural landscapes. Did you make a conscious decision to break
away from this mould by engaging with the Australian landscape
on a suburban level?
I’ve
spent most of my life in cities. My experience is almost
entirely urban. I think that is true of a lot of Australians.
The novel reflects that.
5.
Can you explain a little about the title Subtopia
and how the concept relates to your depictions of Melbourne,
Berlin and New York?
‘Subtopia’ is a satirical contraction of ‘suburbia’
and ‘utopia’. I wanted to suggest the ways in
which urban and suburban environments deliver much less
than what they promise us. I also wanted to evoke, ultimately,
a politicized consciousness linked to an awareness of that
fact. The sense of utopia betrayed is as evident to me in
New York City as it is in the outer suburbs of Melbourne
or Sydney.
6. Both Subtopia and Christos Tsiolkas’ recently
published novel Dead Europe have their main character
needing to leave Australia and head to Europe in order to
find some kind of answer to his own unresolved relationship
with Australia. Do you think contemporary Australian literary
fiction has been too inward looking in its quest to represent
an aspect of an Australian identity?
The
question of national identity and national specificity has
virtually crushed the life out of Australian literature,
and sentenced it to a kind of kitsch inherited from colonial
print-culture. The cultural and physical mobility of the
characters in Subtopia simply embodies the sense
that our identities don’t have to be formed by the
‘national space’. In the novel, for instance,
Ulrike Meinhof is a more important affective presence than
anyone or anything Australian.
7.
Are novels such as yours and Tsiolkas’ providing a new
way of looking at Australia in a more global context?
Both novels are concerned, at some level, with global experience.
Global political and economic relations are increasingly
defining the ways in which people are empowered and disenfranchised,
protected and threatened. The national obsessions of Australian
literature run the risk of screening that out. There’s
something regressive in that, I think. Both novels assume
a global, cosmopolitan context for identity formation, not
a national one.
8. The Berlin that Julian encounters is perhaps not quiet
what he had expected and in many ways his disappointment is
reflected in the fate of the character of Martin. What is
it about the character of Martin and the city of Berlin that
attracts Julian?
Julian
is attracted to the dissident element in Martin. In a way
the West Berlin of the late sixties and early seventies,
in which left-wing activism spilt over into armed resistance,
embodies a sense of dissidence as well, though obviously
in a very different register. The novel’s movement
from Melbourne to Berlin is partly about an interest in
this fantasy of a radical, politicized city that is sharply
juxtaposed to suburbia.
9. Julian worries about his life ‘settling into one
of those redemptive, coming-of-age narratives in which a fuck-up
protagonist finally accepts his mediocrity and succumbs to
the reality principle’. Does Subtopia offer
more hope than this for Julian?
I
don’t think novels need be about hope in that restricted
sense of things working out for the character. That’s
one of the limp imperatives of mainstream fiction, in which
character development almost always implies the movement
towards a happy disposition at peace with the world. Subtopia’s
conclusion avoids this. It is about absence, not optimism,
though that negative impulse keeps the utopian alive as
a possibility more emphatically than endings that try to
be more obviously upbeat.


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